Hair Loss Discussion Forums

[davidfox]

Getting a hair transplant is very risky, in my opinion.

If they do a bad job, you are stuck with it for life.

The vast majority of hair transplants look terrible. I don't like those odds.

To be fair, it sounds like you found a good surgeon. If I could be 100% guaranteed that I would be happy with the results, I would probably go that route. It is obviously cheaper, as you pointed out.

One more thought... my hair loss was so advanced, I don't think there was sufficient donor area to do a good job. They would pretty much have to move all the donor area up there for it to look good.

Anyway, I'm glad this thread has been so active and has been viewed so many times, because HCM is not for everyone (but it is defintely for me, at least for now).

[Kevin112]

DavidFox I need help. I am seriously thinking of going with HMC. I am 26 years old and still have 80% -90% hair but still you can notice thinning hair.

Yea it does seem like a bit of hassle but I think it may be worth it. Plus like you said surgery is riskier.

1) With surgery are the results permanent? Meaning do I have to keep getting surgery very few months/years?
2) How natural does the hair look with HMC? I have black hair so the color matching may not be a problem. However I would like to have a wave in the front which may be a problem if the hairline is straight like people are saying.

Please help! Any other comments or tips you can tell me?

Thanks!
Kevin

[jaydunn]

davidfox, you seem to be the only proponent of HCM. I think it might be because all the satisfied clients don't need to come to these forums anymore. They're out livin'.
Anyway, I appreciate your info. I'm just about ready to give it a shot but I've got some major concerns I was hoping you could address.
First, has anyone asked you if you wear a wig? Do people stare up at your hairline while talking to you?
Second, does the hair match the texture of your existing hair. I have brittle hair and am worry about matching texture and color. Also, can you level out the thickness of these things so they don't look so thick?
Do you use polyfuse? If the hair is bonded to your hair, doesn't the whole system lift and become unstable as your hair grows each week? And finally, can the system come off on its own? Assuming you maintain it properly, has it ever come up on its own? That's a major fear = exposure. Or is this bonding agent trustworthy enough so you don't even have to worry about someone coming up behind and mussing up your hair.
This is a tough decision so any help would be appreciated.

[davidfox]

Hey Kevin...

It has been almost a month since you posted these questions. I am really sorry I haven't been checking in here more often.

Against my better judgement I am going to post my personal email address here so that you or anyone else who happens to come across this thread can email me directly. My personal email address is daviddavid789 at hotmail dot com. (I don't want to type it out in the correct email format because it will get picked up by a spambot and I will get added to mailing lists.)

I'm not sure what you mean exactly by 80% - 90% of your hair. If someone looks at your hair from 5 or 10 feet away, would they notice that your hair is thinning? Or is it even farther gone than that.

Why I ask is that I think HCM is a better solution for someone whose hair is really gone. The whole system works best if you let them shave the top. If your hair is only at the "starting to thin" stage, its hard to say whether it would be a good move or not. On the other hand, if you already have a well-defined "bald spot" then its probably time.

You didn't mention money, but I will repeat what I said before.... if you can't spare a couple grand, this isn't for you (of course neither are most other solutions).

(1) With surgery, the results are permanent. But as your hair continues to thin, you may have to have more surgery in the future. Did the men on your mother's side of your family experience hair loss - as I understand it, that's where the hair-loss jean comes from, not your father's side. Someone please correct me if you have heard otherwise. I suppose for the sake of thoroughness you should consider the men on your father's side also. What I'm getting at is that maybe surgery is for you if most of your family's hair loss is mild. On the other hand, if everyone on both sides is bald, maybe that's where you're headed also. In that type of situation, I think HCM is a better solution. You only have limited donor area when you go the surgery route.

If you decide on surgery, see if you can get in touch with the guy on this forum who had such good luck with his. Perhaps you live a short distance from where he got his done.

Regarding how natural the hair looks... the hair itself looks great. If you focus your efforts on the hairline and make sure it looks good, you're all set. It has been almost a year since I "unveiled" my new look and I know there is no one at my office who knows. But to get back to your question, the hair itself looks great. It does not look like the quintessential 1970's "rug". The top allows your scalp to show through, which I intentionally allow people to see. I kneel down to "tie my shoe" or something when people are standing around, just so they can look down and see a little scalp showing through my hair.

Regarding the hair line... I'm not sure what you mean by a wave, but if it shows more than an inch of hairline, it could be tricky. You could probably pull it off with blonde hair, and defintely with greyish hair. You'll notice that all the best hairlines in HCM's advertizements are with light colored hair. With black hair, you're limited to showing only an inch. Actually there is a way you can show more, but with a different style. Sometimes I brush my hair straight forward so it sticks straight out, then mess it up a little. The hairline is then visible, sort of, "under" your hair. My brother wears his like that all the time. I wore it like that for a couple months, but on this latest systems I switched to really long bangs so I could curl them into a more GQ-ish look.

Speaking of the hairline... just this month I discovered a way to make the hairline look a lot more natural. I am still playing around with it. You attach the frontal adhesive about 1/8 of an inch "out" too far. The base of your hair on your hairline will stick to it more irregularly than they otherwise would, making it look more natural. When I perfect this technique I'll try to post a clear picture here.

This post is getting long. I'm not sure if there is a length limit so I will continue in the next post......

[davidfox]

Yeah I guess I am the only HCM proponent here. I think its like you said that. How many times have you called the power company to tell them how great of a job they're doing or posted a message about it on the internet? I'm guessing never.

No one has ever asked if I wear a wig. Dude, you can't tell. Maybe there are some bad HCM clinics out there, judging from some of the people here in this forum, so take my advice from my previous posts and go see some real live clients at your local HCM. Don't pay them any money until you see their work.

Its funny you should ask about people staring at my hair line. I would agree that if you are talking to someone and their eyes bounce between looking at your eyes and looking at your hairline, you are busted. I have never had this happen UNTIL about three days ago I was on a training course for work and I was talking to the trainer during break and she looked up there a couple times and I must say I was concerned. So I ran to the bathroom the first chance I got, and somehow a tiny peice of the muffin I had previously eaten got onto my bangs. She had been looking at that and was too polite to tell me that I was a moron. I probably just ran my fingers through my hair or something.

Basically, if my hairline looked so bad that it would make people stare, I would never have left my house like that. I would fix it before I leave. I can see it right in the mirror, closer that anyone else can. I understand your concern though, and you are concerned about the right things.

Regarding texture matching. The system will fade after a couple months. They will color it for free. Someone here said that the color didn't match when he left the HCM office. They show you right in the mirror how you look, so if the color doesn't match, just get them to touch it up a little. It takes 3 minutes. You asked about texture though, not color. The day you get it, it is "poofy" and soft - almost too much so. After about 6 weeks mine starts to feel coarse because of all the gel building up. I use a LOT of gel. They give you stuff to strip the build-up off the hair, but I never bother using it. It may feel coarse but it still looks fine, so I don't bother. You can though if you want.

Yes I use polyfuse. I don't know anything about the other attachment methods. Polyfuse bonds to your scalp, not to your other hair. Well, your hair is bonded in there too, but the system is holding onto your scalp. If you pick at it, it loosens up after 3-4 weeks and is noticably loose when you get to your 5 or 6 week service. When I say loose, I mean that you could pull up on your hair and it would raise probably a quarter inch (although it could still never come off without substantial effort). Still looks fine though. If you DON'T pick at the edges, it will still be tight when you go in for your service. I used to pick at mine the first few times. This last time, it was still so tight that it hurt coming off - I will have to pick at it more next time!

No, it will never ever ever ever fall off on its own. You don't have to maintain it properly to get it to stick, you just leave it alone. Getting it wet doesn't make a difference. Wash it 10 times a day if you want, it doesn't matter.

You don't have to worry about someone walking up behind you and mussing up your hair in terms of it coming off, BUT they might be able to feel the edge of the system depending on how "thoroughly" they are mussing up your hair. That is a good point and I'm glad you brought it up. Although you can't SEE it, you can feel it when you touch your head if you "dig". You touch it with the palm of your hand, you can't feel it. Move around with your finger tips and you can feel a tiny bump that follows a "U" shape around your head. Don't think you will ever have a girlfriend that won't know about this.

Hopefully this has been useful information for you. I have a bias towards HCM because I have had such good luck with them, but I have tried to explain the negatives too. Most of this reply has been about the negatives, because you already know the big positive - a full head of hair!

This is getting long so I will end it here. If you have more questions, let me know via email, but still post the questions here, so as to help out people who will stumble upon this thread in the future. I will try to check back here more often whether I get an email or not.

Best of luck Kevin and Jay...
..df

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[jeeves80]

OK, guys. First of all I want to say "SORRY" if I have any mistakes. I am still working on my English...
I have read some of the stuff, here on this forum, and can say I see a lot of familiar stuff. You know... I am twenty and losing hair... I am using this and that... I have been through this. I made some researches too.
I came across so called www.nisim.com site, and I read a lot of info there, but did NOT like the prices. Then I went to e-bay and bought the same stuff almost 50% cheaper. I really liked the stuff... I stopped losing hair, but I did NOT gain a lot. I kept trying to find... I wanted to find the reason to the problem. Some people say it's DNA, some say it's DHT, and then I found some guy , who said it's all parasites together with solvents and metals. In our case it was NICKEL, Nickel is something our bodies DO NOT NEED AT ALL, Nickel is what's attracting bacteria, Nickel belongs to earth, not to our bodies. Where do we get Nickel? Stainless steel stuff- forks, spoons, knives all got 8% nickel. try to put your stainless steel knife in a mayonnaise jar. It is stained in a few minutes. Try it. The mayo REACTS with metal loosening the nickel, and when you smear the knife over your bread this film comes off and you eat it. If you were to put the knife in your mouth, now, you could taste the metal- the bacteria is thankful for the good amount of food- nickel. Now guys, prostate is caused by nickel that attracts bacteria. never buy foil wrapped butter. Nickel is fat soluble and is stored in our bodies temporarily when even a small amount enters our body. If we have lots of it, it starts causing "allergies" in the skin. Male pattern baldness is such an allergy. The sweat tries to excrete it for us. Always wash off scalp sweat, help your body. Metal watches , rings, earrings, all have nickel. By the way , guys, lowering the nickel amounts in your body- will help you get rid of prostate(if you have it- follow the steps- you will never see it again) and you will see scalp hair returning to scarce areas. Histidine(500 mg. one a day for 3 weeks) is a nickel chelator The skin oil dissolves nickel from our jewelry. OK, now, I started using the method described in the book. A big number of shampoos are polluted with BAD stuff, see the sticker on back of bottles, they "kill" our bodies. What to use instead of shampoo. Take an empty shampoo bottle and put some Borax powder in it, add water. When I just started doing it - I didn't like it because I didn't see any foam, I got used to it in about a week. If you have too much Borax- not all of it will dissolve, but it's not a problem at all, when the bottle's solution gets low add some more hot water to dissolve the rest Borax in the bottle. Then get a second bottle and mix some citric acid in it- this solution eliminates any Borax left on your scalp or skin. Try Borax on your face- it kills all this fat in seconds(I assume there's a lot of BAD stuff in that fat). The bad thing about all of it- is that when you wash your hair next time- the Borax and Citric acid mix are cold. Guys, our genes should only carry good info- try the method- you will understand- it IS NOT HEREDITARY, but because we USE THE SAME MISTAKES as our ancestors. Do not expect you hair to came back in 2 or 3 weeks, I am still in the process- I thought my case was the worst one- nope, it works- and so cheap. If it works for you- write to me- any more health problems- ask, maybe I can help with some advice. Thank you and God Bless!

[hurraquio]

[tcken]

I stumbled across this site while doing research on the Hair Club for Men. Unfortunately, I already made an appointment for the Matrix system (and signed the contract). After calling to cancel, they notified me that it was too late to back out and I would lose my money. BUT assured me that it was not at all like the things I had read and proceeded to tell me how wonderful it is. Then said that I should come in and have the matrix system done and if I wasn't satisfied, they would promptly remove it and refund a portion of my money.

What should I do? I know they just want me to come to convince me with the full sales pitch. What I've read has me wanting to back completely out. But that is A LOT of money. What are my options????

Any help is greatly appreciated!